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EP 109 The Non-Alcoholic Movement: Meet Kendall Olsen of Libations Library

• Deb, Mocktail Mom • Season 1 • Episode 109

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Grab your favorite glass and prepare for a fun, flavor-packed chat with the brilliant Kendall Olsen, the mastermind behind @libations_library! Kendall is a pro at breaking down the art of mocktail-making into bite-sized, easy-to-digest goodness. In this episode, she lets us in on her go-to restaurant order, the local brands she loves, and why the mindful drinking movement is booming. 

We talk about the magic of a non-alcoholic Salty Dog (recipe included!), how she’s supporting amazing alcohol-free brands—especially in her hometown of St. Louis—and the overwhelming but exciting explosion of NA options (and how to keep up). Kendall also shares the best resources for getting started with mocktails, even if you don’t know a jigger from a shaker. 

Whether you’re mocktail-curious, fully alcohol-free, or love discovering new drinks, this episode is packed with goodness. So pour yourself something delicious, and let’s dive in!


Get in touch with Kendall! @libations_library


NA Salty Dog


3 oz grapefruit (unsweetened)

.5 oz lime juice(or sour mix)

2 oz lemon/lime soda

Salty rim



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Deb:

Buckle up, friends, and welcome to the Thriving Alcohol-Free Podcast. I'm your host, deb, otherwise known as Mocktail Mom, a retired wine drinker that finally got sick and tired of spinning on life's broken record called Detox to Retox. Let this podcast be an encouragement to you. If alcohol is maybe a form of self-care for you, where you find yourself dragging through the day waiting to pour another glass, I am excited to share with you the fun of discovering new things to drink when you aren't drinking and the joy of waking up each day without a hangover. It is an honor to serve as your sober, fun guide. So sit back and relax or keep doing whatever it is you're doing. This show is produced for you with love from the great state of Kentucky. Thanks so much for being here and big time cheers. Okay, hey friends, it's Deb. Welcome back to Thriving Alcohol-Free. How are you? I am so happy you're here.

Deb:

We have a very special guest today, actually a member of Thriving Alcohol-Free, kendall Olson, who I absolutely love. If you guys are not following her Instagram, please do so. Stop what you're doing right now. Either write down her Instagram handle it's just on TikTok libations, underscore library. So we'll have it in the show notes, but you need to follow her. She does these great things called Mocktail Minutes. So, kendall, welcome, welcome. I'm going to read your bio, but I just want to say welcome. Thank you for joining me today. I'm so happy to be here. I you for joining me today. I'm so happy to be here. I am so happy. We've been planning this forever since, like before, I was like recording the podcast or the mock test summit and stuff. So I was like let's record together later on once 2025 starts Perfect timing. But I'm sorry you have a little cold today. This is not I guess it's not perfect timing.

Deb:

You're a little sick today, it's okay, par for the course. You sound, you sound great, you look great Okay good.

Deb:

Yes, yes, let me read your bio for everybody so they know who you are. Kendall Olson is a longtime educator and school librarian who will soon embark on a second career as a licensed professional counselor. She's a former member of the hospitality industry. Kendall has served as a corporate restaurant trainer and is a self-proclaimed I love this a self-proclaimed non-alcoholic educator and a certified mixologist. Her latest concoctions and educational videos can be found at libations underscore library on Instagram and TikTok. So welcome, and you're from Missouri. Is that where you live? I am St Louis, st Louis, oh, my God, my dad grew up in St Louis. Are you a big Cardinals fan? Yes, of course.

Kendall:

I mean as long as is that the game with the brown ball, the orange ball or the white ball?

Deb:

Because you're not really into sports. I'm not really either. This is not a sports podcast, so don't worry, Nobody cares. Okay, well?

Kendall:

yes, I picked off all the St Louis people. I know so I do. I love the Cardinals, but you know I'm an 82 girl, like the World Series back then that I can relate to. Now I have no. What's going on, Isn't that?

Deb:

funny, isn't that so funny? You say 82? Okay, so my parents then moved to Philadelphia. That's where I grew up, and in 1980, the Phillies won the World Series. So like growing up my parents I like always voted, voted, listened to me like let's just see, we know what we're running for anyway, we were cheering for either like the Cardinals or the Phillies growing up, so very, very fun.

Deb:

Yes, very fun. Okay, I want to hear, I would love for you to share, like, maybe, your sober curious journey, or like your journey of like, of starting sharing on Instagram.

Kendall:

Would that be okay? To kind of start like how you got into all this? And I kind of was in some Reddit, like in the Reddit for that, and I was really reading a lot about cocktails and was trying them while I was going out and then in January of 24, I had my very first total knee replacement. All of a sudden, my cocktail making came to a halt. I was trying things at home but I would have to take a drink and then pour the rest out because of all this heavy-duty medication I was on and I have since had my second total knee replacement in May and I started taking a medication called Lyrica which helps with things like my fibromyalgia, and I got such total relief from it that I decided it was really important to take. I'm going to be honest, I had kind of looked into it a little bit before and one of the reasons that I didn't pursue it was because it very clearly says you should not drink while you're on it. I understand, yep, I just don't know if I want to do that.

Kendall:

Well, things got really serious. When you get total knee replacements, I mean it is brutal and it really gave me so much relief that I decided there was, there was no reason not to. So I will say that I still have the occasional drink. I had a chance to try green chartreuse in a last word cocktail this last summer and so I took that opportunity. But I think in 2024, when I counted up, I think I had maybe two and a half drinks total. Yeah, yeah, you know.

Kendall:

And now, like, if my husband orders a drink when we're out and I have a sip he's not much of a drinker, but if he does, I'll have a sip and it just tastes it's just too strong for me now.

Kendall:

It's just I sort of lost my taste for it.

Kendall:

So, you know, the thing about alcohol with me is that there have been some times in my life where, you know, I've had some unhealthy episodes.

Kendall:

When I divorced my husband when my son was three and he's now my son is now 20, because of his substance use disorder I was really conscious about how I was consuming alcohol in front of my son. As a single mom, I knew that I was the primary caregiver for the most part. However, one or two weekends a month my husband and his family would have complete, you know, charge of my son and I would go out with friends, and it was like I was making up for lost time because it was just one binge after another, friday night, saturday night, and it just became too much, and so I really have had trouble, since I started drinking when I was in my early 20s, in regulating, and so for me it's just kind of been a blessing that I've been on this medication. It's showed me that I can live without it, for one thing, but also that I enjoy living without it, if that makes sense.

Deb:

Makes a lot of sense.

Kendall:

Yeah, I did get my mixology certification as part of this whole thing. I realize I'll backtrack in a minute and explain how I completely got here in the Instagram space. So I did want to try some of the alcohol that I was learning about in that mixology class, and so I took little sips and again, it's just not I just it was another reinforcement of the fact that I just don't really like it anymore. So so I just started creating all these mocktails on paper when I was sitting on the couch recovering. My husband works from home, so he was behind me in his office.

Kendall:

I was binge watching Netflix and I was creating all these mocktails on paper mostly because I came across in the cocktail forums something about mocktails, and I can't say whether or not this is true or for sure, but I have a very strong feeling that it was Ian Blessing in there who was posting and he has been very active in the Mocktails Reddit in the past.

Kendall:

I know he has a lot going on right now with the opening of his new store, but I really became interested in that Mocktails subreddit. So that's kind of where I started learning about things, and then I just started accumulating all these spirits and started trying them in different drinks and it just kind of took off from there and I thought, with the amount of time that I'm spending crafting these things, I really should document them. And so I did, and I just decided to post for friends. And the response was great and so I thought, okay, well, I'll just keep going. And I have posted every single day since I started last June, Really, and so, yeah, a lot of it is my own recipes. I would say about 75% is, and then about 25% are somebody else's. But when I first got started in this, a couple of important things happened. One is that Derek Santiago, the mocktail whiz, he's the best Shout out to Derek.

Deb:

I mean right, he's listening. We love you, Derek, we love you yes absolutely.

Kendall:

I saw his stuff on Instagram and right around that time he was publishing his book, and so I ordered it and I just started making recipes out of that book. I have gone through his deck and his book and I'd say I have made about 80% of his book, wow, and at least a third 25% to a third of that deck and some of them are the same, but I just really love the way that he makes everything so simple. Agree, agree.

Deb:

His recipes are fantastic.

Kendall:

I mean they really are, they really are and you know they are. And I love how he not only takes classics but he also you know he has a rose mocktail in there that he made for his mom, I know and you know, he just he does bring a personal touch and he's just such a great, a great guy all around. There's so many nice people in this space. Agree, I have just loved getting to know the people I mean it's been so much fun.

Kendall:

I agree, yeah, I agree. And you know another group of people who I love happens to be the ladies at Raising the Bar, because around that same time I also learned about them and I subscribed, and the rest is history. I am very proud to announce that I am in the first cohort of their brand ambassadors.

Deb:

I know, Isn't that exciting. Kendall congratulations.

Kendall:

I know that's huge it is for me because it feels like coming home in a way, because they have just been so encouraging from the start, and when I had to create a video for them, I really decided to focus on the fact that I was Generation X. It's held me back a little bit, but I feel very comfortable in your community. Let's lean into it. Let's lean into it. I mean absolutely.

Kendall:

And I said, you know, if you have ever seen movies from the 1980s, then you know that a rite of passage for people my age was, you know, as much drinking in high school as you could accomplish and it was celebrated. I mean, that's those movies. I mean I think that's what all of them are about. It's just, it's, it's crazy. And so alcohol has always surrounded me in one way or another by one person or another and my immediate family or in, you know, just in in the greater, you know greater groups around me, and so I just really feel like it's important for people to see our generation, if I may, I know you're class of 89, right, I was 90. So I know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm 53.

Deb:

Yep. Class of 89. Yep Yep.

Kendall:

And so I think it's important for people to see us in the space. Everyone talks about Gen Z, you know, and there are. We do exist, and when I, when I go in and look at who's watching my stuff on Instagram, it's a lot of people my age. It's millennials, also a handful of younger people, but it really is more people my age, and so I love that and I love that. Hopefully I'm encouraging them to make some mocktails. A friend of mine reached out in last fall and said hey, can you do a mocktail workshop for me and some friends? She's a wonderful person and she just loves to get different people together, and I said, sure, I'll do this. And so I went into her house and I had a lesson plan because, you know, I am a teacher.

Deb:

You're a teacher, I was going to say you have lesson plans. What is that I do? And it was.

Kendall:

It was four pages and God bless them for like putting up with me.

Deb:

But it was ridiculous.

Kendall:

Well, it just was so thorough and I realized, ooh, like I'm coming on a little strong, this is a little too much. And so that's how the Matil Minute was born. That's how it was born. I thought, seriously, I need little snippets. Yes, I need little snippets because people really did want to hear what I had to say.

Deb:

It was just a little bit too much, but you know I love that. Four pages, a very thorough plan, yes, yeah that's a little long.

Kendall:

I mean, we tried, I had them trying. I'm ready to drink. You know, this was a room of like 20 people and I had them trying six different ready-to-drinks in little cups. I was pouring and then went to. You know the six different kinds of sphere. I mean, it was just so. Anyway, here we are. There's enough material there to last me at least two years.

Deb:

I'm sure I was going to say, yeah, yes, this is going to be a lot of mocktail minutes. Yeah, you're all set.

Kendall:

You've written your curriculum right. I know, I know, I know and you know. A few other things happened along the way to encourage me Kristen Bracco, who owns Cheeky and Dry up in. Seattle reached out to me early on. She owns a bottle shop and she just said, hey, give me a call. And I was like oh my gosh. But she said there isn't a lot of education going on in this space, I would I love to see it, and she really encouraged me.

Kendall:

And then Amber Siebel of Gather reached out and had me working with some oh my gosh, isn't she? And so I have just felt really supported along the way by a lot of really great women, a lot of really great men too, but I just did not expect this group of people to be this amazing. I don't know what I expected, but I have just been very pleasantly surprised by it.

Deb:

There's something so special about the sober community, the mocktail community.

Deb:

I agree there really is I don't know how to explain it Like it's just, unless you're in it, you don't get it, but it's like it's so supportive. I feel like it really is like the rising tide. We're lifting everybody up. You know. We're encouraging one another and then, in turn, bringing more people into. Come on out, come on out. Just even if they're just trying mocktails in between their cocktails, like I don't care, you know, I just want people to know there's good things to drink without alcohol.

Kendall:

And you know. That's interesting too, that you say that, because we've I know we've talked about zebra striping before. You've talked about that on your podcast, which I love, by the way, and I am a listener.

Deb:

Oh, thank you?

Kendall:

Oh, you're welcome, but what I have found is that when I go out with friends now, I don't think they're self-conscious because these are people that I know very well about the fact that they're drinking and I'm drinking a mocktail but what I've noticed is a lot of them are zebra striping when they're with me, and I think that's awesome too. They're willing to try drinks that they may not have been willing to try otherwise, and they're really pleasantly surprised by them, because there is some really great stuff happening with these just all sorts of people. That's the other thing I love about this community. There are people creating elixirs and teas and spirits and syrups and all kinds of stuff from all different walks of life. The diversity in this space is amazing. I love all the different people that I've been able to meet.

Deb:

It's just been a joy. Yeah, yeah, it's been a joy. I totally, totally agree, yes, Okay. So how has education prepared you for all this?

Kendall:

So, in terms of creating the mocktail minutes, I think I have a general idea of what a good catchy lesson plan. You know, I know not all of them are great.

Kendall:

Some of them are a little more well, thank you, are more well-planned than others, but just the idea that I got to get that hook in there right away. I've got to say what I got to say in the beginning because kids and adults both don't really want to listen all the time, and so I get it in there, and I will admit they're not always a minute, but I try to keep them very short and just try to get that information in right away. So I think that, having that background I was a corporate restaurant trainer and a service bartender back in the day I cannot believe that.

Deb:

Okay, so you were a service bartender.

Kendall:

Seriously, Very briefly, and this was back well before craft cocktails and so this involved.

Kendall:

You know I am in St Louis pouring a lot of Anheuser-Busch and you know, margaritas and things like that, and I spent most of my time in the serving space. I served for several years as I went through college. But, yes, I was a traveling corporate trainer and I owned a few restaurants. Yeah, Really, Really, yeah, yeah, that was intense, that was, you know. Here's one of the things that I say to a lot of people. There are lots of hard jobs out there. The people in the restaurant industry, I mean, they work their tails off.

Kendall:

I remember the first week that I worked in the restaurant industry I went home and cried every night. I just was not used to that level of work. Abuse is what it is, yeah, and back then, you know, back then in the 90s, there was a lot of abuse. But I also have been very cautious about honestly encouraging my children to go into that space because there is a lot of alcohol there. It's rough, yeah, and that's because the work is so hard. It just is. And so I learned a lot from that too, and I think that all these things have really led me to this point. It's just really fun how everything has kind of come together, and now that I'm back in school to become a counselor at this point in time I'm leaning towards adults families, Really, yeah and groups, because I'm not afraid of speaking in front of groups. I really think I'll be working with adults mostly, but you know it's going to help in that regard as well, because I will be taking an addictions class here next semester.

Kendall:

I have now been in contact with a lot of the sober community. I recognize some of the signs of substance use, I mean just in myself and in talking with other people whom I've met, and I just I think this also will really help me in my second career. I've been taking one class a semester. So I mean I've met and I just I think this also will really help me in my second career. I've been taking one class a semester. So I mean I've been with several cohorts. I'm watching all these people I started with. They're practicing now, which is kind of fun, but I planned it out because I'm a planner. That's what a lot of teachers do you know. We're planners by nature.

Deb:

My sister's that way, my sister's that way. Okay, right, She'll ask me. She'll be like what are you doing? And it's like two months down the road, what are you doing for this? I'm like what am I doing for this? I don't even know what I'm doing at three o'clock this afternoon. I don't know.

Kendall:

That's what I, and then we come up with funny times at 1247. I need to do this at 136 because we live and die by the clock. I mean, that's what we do, that's true, that's true. The bell, yeah, yeah, and so I hope that it'll kind of come together that way, I mean that's what I'm anticipating Great, great, and I'm anticipating your mocktail book.

Deb:

That's what I want to see. Well, that's going to be phenomenal.

Kendall:

So that's really fun that you say that. You know I have always been a writer and I have had a few things published Amazing. Not anything, mostly teaching materials, things like that. I really thought and I heard Ian Blessing say this too in one of your, you know I really thought all this information gathering would lead to a book, Right because he's got his kind of written.

Deb:

I mean yeah, I mean right, and his would be like the Bible, I mean it would be the Bible, yeah, it would be the Bible.

Kendall:

Yeah, I have interviewed a lot of people, anticipating like, conducted interviews like by Zoom, just with brand owners. Great Like Naina Mugai from no Leak spoke with me and I was so privileged to hear her story and you know I'd love to do something with those things someday. But also I don't have to for myself, for my own fulfillment, and I also really try as much as possible to lift up the people who I'm meeting, who I really think are doing great work. You know, I just I love to give. I mean I have a very modest following, I mean let's be honest, but I love sharing the great things that I'm finding with everyone else and you know, and I also.

Kendall:

I do want to mention one other thing, if you don't mind. I don't mind, yeah, I would love for you to. Someone reached out to me a few months ago from Mighty Kind, which is a local St Louis brand also. They make botanical seltzers and CBD seltzers and they make THC seltzers. Now I work with the botanical seltzers and the CBD seltzers and I make mocktails for them, and so to have a partnership with people who are really involved with mindful drinking, the founder, josh Loyal, was making mocktails years ago in his family bar here in St Louis and, as I said before, st Louis is a big drinking culture. We have the second largest Mardi Gras celebration in the country and all that information is popping up in my feed right now. Everybody's preparing for how they can A find the best drink, b sneak in I mean just all this kind of stuff and so I love the fact that there are people here, even in this strong drinking community, who are taking a stand. I have never met the well-being brewing people, but they're located here.

Kendall:

So, it's just, it's fun to be a part of this where I live Like I really am enjoying being a part of that too. So I just wanted to make sure that I shouted out my hometown that way, because there are some you know, there are some great people doing some great things here.

Deb:

Yeah, I need to be better about that. Like I feel like there's local brands here and I have not done as much locally, even like local events and stuff, and I just I feel like, especially now that people are doing more in real life events and we're all out and about like COVID's definitely over, we've all moved on. You know everybody's doing things again. So locally is so important to support the local community and the local brands. Like I have Naked the Naked Whiskey. They're here in town.

Kendall:

They're amazing.

Deb:

They're wonderful. Yeah, there's some great brands. So, yeah, I need to do better about that. So that's awesome. Yes, to spotlight those who are supporting and who are, you know, helping to grow the industry, because it's booming.

Kendall:

It's booming. It is booming isn't it.

Deb:

It's booming and you can't keep up, right? I mean, I literally can't keep up and I feel terrible about it. I feel bad that I can't keep up. I mean I feel like I walk around with guilt. Now. I don't have shame from drinking so much. I walk around now with guilt because I'm like I can't talk about brands that maybe sent me something or whatever, and I'm like I'm so sorry. You know I feel bad. Okay, all right. So if you go out to a restaurant and they don't have a mocktail on the menu I know you have amazing background what do you ask them to make you? What is like your go-to that?

Kendall:

you request for them to make for you. So my go-to is a salty dog, an NA salty dog. Okay, and I made sure that I wrote this down so I'd get the proportions right, so let me look real quick.

Deb:

I love it, yes go ahead, let's do it. We'll put it in the show notes too.

Kendall:

Okay. So three ounces of grapefruit, and preferably unsweetened, so not the ruby red kind of stuff that you see. Okay, half an ounce of lime juice If they don't have lime juice, then sour mix might work and then two ounces of lemon, lime soda with a salty rim. It's fantastic, nice, it's really great.

Deb:

Yeah, that's a winner. That sounds so good and it's everything they would have right there, like they don't have to go. You know like, oh, we don't have that, we don't have peach, you know syrup or whatever you know Right. Yeah, that's my go-to drink, the non-alcoholic salty dog. Okay, we're going to put that in the Three ounces of grapefruit, half an ounce of lime juice or sour mix if they don't have lime juice, right? Or if they don't have lime juice, and then two ounces of lemon-lime soda.

Kendall:

And if you prefer it sweeter, I am always running a little more on the tart side. That's my taste preference. But you can add a little more Sprite or 7-Up or Starry or whatever it is if you need to.

Deb:

Okay To sweeten it up a little. Sweeten it up a little. Okay, to sweeten it up, very nice. Okay, what are your favorite? Do you have any favorite? I know this. I feel like I'm asking you like who's your? Which one's your favorite? Child Favorite ready to drinks. Favorite non-alcoholic beers, wines and spirits?

Kendall:

I would love to hear your some of your favorites and I know again this is what, but maybe like, if you could only buy one, what would you have? I would say the Pathfinder, which I know is. You know, I tend to lean along those lines. I love Three Spirit Nightcap, which is similar. That's really my favorite non-alcoholic spirit. I love, honestly, victory Wheat by Wellbeing. That's my favorite NAB. So good, it is good.

Kendall:

And I am not much of a wine drinker, to be honest with you, so Ready to Drinks can sometimes be my go-to. I love Filia. I love that Fersante, the little can of Filia, f-i-g-l-i-a. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's great. Amaretto Sawa by Nolik, I mean I just love it. It's like, I mean, that almond taste in the Amaretto is really really good. And then, you know, I love these CBD drinks from different brands. I of course, love Mighty Kind. I mean that's one brand that I'm working with. Oh, locally, yeah. And oh, my goodness, I don't know so many. I love Reserve, rsrv, the Rosada. Actually, all of theirs are excellent too. There's just too many to name.

Deb:

It's right, it's overwhelming.

Kendall:

Yeah, it is overwhelming.

Deb:

It is overwhelming, how many, right? And I mean we have no. There's no excuse anymore, like if somebody's looking for something not to drink. There are so many good things to drink and even if you don't want to make a mocktail, you don't want to make a mocktail, you don't want to make a non-alcoholic cocktail, there's so many good ready-to-drinks. You don't have to mix anything up. I mean you can have a whole bar, just a whole mocktail station with just ready-to-drinks, right?

Kendall:

You could, you could, you, could, you could. Yeah, so many good things to drink.

Deb:

I thought of another one. Hold on, I like all of them. I mean, everybody's tastes are different. I like all of them. I think they're delicious. I think they're like hit the ball out of the park.

Kendall:

They're so good. Well, and that's the thing too. A lot of times you know I'll have, I like one thing from a line or two things from a line, and I just haven't ever had anything I don't love. Apples is delicious, yeah.

Deb:

I think I have their little coasters right here somewhere. Oh, little Appalips coasters are so cute, cute. Their stuff is nice. Yes, they sent me like a little lunchbox, like a little, oh cute, and I see all your lunchboxes behind you.

Kendall:

Oh yes, my husband's lunchbox, that's his lunchbox collection. He, yes, so we, that is so cute, we display we were trying to love it, that's so nice, that's perfect.

Deb:

Yes, it's so perfect, so perfect. Okay, any advice you'd like to give to anybody who's maybe interested in, who's sober curious or who's just mocktail curious, any advice you'd like to share with them before we go?

Kendall:

Well, you know, there's a lot of different places that you can go for information, but right now, instagram seems to be the place. I just feel like there are a lot of creators on there doing all sorts of different things, so that would be one place to start Derek's book your book would be another place to start. I love that not all of your drinks use spirits either. You have some that are. You just use things that you find in your house, ginger beer being one of our favorites.

Deb:

Yes, for sure, yes.

Kendall:

Yeah, so and that could be, I could be speaking to my generation there, I mean, as a Gen Xer, I love a print book.

Deb:

I just do. Yeah, nice to have it printed.

Kendall:

So, other than Instagram, it's those resources. And then, of course, you know the usual the Flavor Bible, Derek Brown's book, Mindful Mixology, the Cocktail Codex, even just the standard bartender, Bartender books. You know to learn, yeah, yeah Well.

Deb:

I need to make sure everybody needs to be following you. Libations underscore library. Kendall, I love what you're doing and I love that you're carving out your own path of education and just bite-sized tips and tricks, bite-sized things, you know. So not the four-page, right, the four-page, you've broken it down, but that's so. It's so meaningful and it's so impactful, so you're making a huge difference in this community. Thank you so much for saying that. I mean it. I mean it. I really like. I'm so happy to be connected to you and I'm so happy you joined the membership. I'm so happy. I am too. That was thriving, alcohol free. I love having you there. So, and I know like we have happy hours or happy half hours every week and it's like hit or miss for people like you know, be able to make it live or whatever, but it's great we've been able to see you.

Kendall:

So, yes, it's been a lot of fun.

Deb:

Yeah, good, good, good. Thank you so much, okay. Thank you for being my guest. Thank you for joining us thriving, Thriving Alcohol-Free.

Deb:

Lots and lots of love. Big time cheers to you for tuning in to the Thriving Alcohol-Free podcast. I hope you will take something from today's episode and make one small change that will help you to thrive and have fun in life without alcohol. If you enjoyed this episode and you'd like to help support the podcast, please share it with others, post about it on social, send up a flare or leave a rating and a review. I am cheering for you as you discover the world of non-alcoholic drinks and as you journey towards authentic freedom. See you in the next episode.